12/1 update

well were approaching the 2 year mark, this order has been long and had many set backs. hopefully joe can get a hold of all the vendors this month or just after the holidays and get us a idea of when stuff is going to hit. im waiting on joe to hit me with any update or news and ill post it soon as i can.

November AR/GB Update

I haven't heard from Joe yet to post a update for November. I did send him a message, I'm just waiting on him to reply. I guess going off last month where we are just waiting on the stuff to show up. He did say a while back he will let me know soon as stuff comes in. Sorry I couldn't post more for the 11/1 update, soon as Joe hits me back with anything ill post up.

My email checking and computer time will be limited this month. I have a final i got to take and a lot of stuff going on. So check here for any updates. Thanks and again sorry I didn't have more to add.

october group buy update

I haven't got any news from Joe that anything has came in. So I'm pretty much just copy and paste last months update. I'll send Joe a line in a couple weeks and see if there's anything to add.

copied from last month

"I talked to Joe and he wanted me to assure everyone that no one is getting burnt on this. This is taking a very long time, we understand everyone's concerns. Hopefully with a couple months now of not changing the orders stuff will hit soon. The only thing anyone is so called getting "burnt" on is the time frame, and as Joe said its out of his hands. Joe said everyone will get what they ordered, soon as it arrives.

(On a side note I won't be as fast on my email reply's. I have a auto reply set, my 2nd blackberry died. I have to ride out my time, then I'm going to get a new phone and try to set up the email on it as well. I'll be checking my email once every couple weeks or so.)

If I here anything comes in, I'll get up to Joe's ASAP so I can post a couple pictures and let you know what's there."

September AR G.B. Update

As of today nothing new has came in in yet. I talked to Joe and he wanted me to assure everyone that no one is getting burnt on this. This is taking a very long time, we understand everyone's concerns. Hopefully with a couple months now of not changing the orders stuff will hit soon. The only thing anyone is so called getting "burnt" on is the time frame, and as Joe said its out of his hands. Joe said everyone will get what they ordered, soon as it arrives.

(On a side note I won't be as fast on my email reply's. I have a auto reply set, my 2nd blackberry died. I have to ride out my time, then I'm going to get a new phone and try to set up the email on it as well. I'll be checking my email once every couple weeks or so.)

If I here anything comes in, I'll get up to Joe's ASAP so I can post a couple pictures and let you know what's there.

8/7 Group Buy Update

I talked to Joe, nothing has came in yet he said. For the couple of guys asking on shipping the lowers. He said yeah he will ship your lowers, but he can't refund on the LPK's. They will ship when they come in. He said he is sticking with the spring/summer statements. Hes not going to cancel or amend the orders. He wants the orders left alone so they will get built and not bumped to the bottom again. That's all the info I have for now. Joe said he'd try to get me some more info soon as he can. Thanks

Summer Group Buy Update

Just got off the phone with Joe. He wanted me to post a update cause its the first of the summer. It's pretty much the same as the spring update. He did say his email problems are still there and being spammed. Joe also wanted me to pass along, because of his job hes not able to answer the phone during the day. And also to copy and paste the spring update on here in case it falls off the front on this blog.

Quote" Spring Update

Hey everyone, from what joe tells me. People that asked for the refunds a couple months back when we posted ask for a refund by a certain date. Yeah those folks joe mailed back. The ones who chose to be in it till the end, or didn't ask for a refund, then no there still in and waiting.

Joe said there was a lot of refunds and they basically had to cancell the order/ resubmit the order. From what I under stand from joe, even in the early part of the GB they were canceling and redoing the order. That I guess is what the hold up is. The order has been canceled and resubmitted or amended and it keeps putting us at the bottom of the list. Joe told me he even placed another order under his name also for some rifles hoping something hits soon.

He's just as fed up as the people in the group buy. He said he's not going to cancel or amend anything. When stuff comes in people will get it. He hasn't took anyone and the orders are placed. these were prepaid orders, and any refund puts us at the bottom. im sorry to say but so we can get this over with and shipped soon as possible if you choose to be in it then you are.

I'm just waiting for the email that says its all here then I can go to his place and gets pics and we can get this stuff shipped.

Someone on the board used joes email months ago for some porn site. He gets spammed with hundreds of emails a day. It fills up the in box and godaddy deletes them. Also he said someone wrote him a check for $130 and it didn't clear and he was charged for it. So joe was stuck in the hole on that. So joes feelings is everyone who ordered will get there stuff soon as it comes in. He said people had a deadline on the refunds so those who are stayed in are in it with him. He said the delivery dates are up to the vendors and he said they promised him many and haven't made it yet.

The problem with the prepaid orders is the customers money is sent in and the product is ordered. And the refund comes out of joes pocket until he gets a credit or the order gets amended. He can't afford to send everyone's money back and float all of this on his checking account. So he says the customer will get what they ordered, or if they want a refund he will sell there stuff when it comes in then send refund. you will get what you ordered or money back once its in and sold.

This GB is probably one of the longest. But its active and in progress. some people are claiming joes a crook. That's crap, they didn't have a problem with the prices at the time. but sorry they couldn't get it right away. I guess it is what it is, its no different than some one local placing a order in joes store. There waiting like all the GB folks. we have friends and co workers in on this too and we here about the wait all the time. no need to call and email just to complain. joes email and voice mail fills up quick. he asked me to post this update for him. so were all on the same page.

Joe is a stand up guy, he takes his gunshop and gunsmithing seriously. He's a great friend and sponsor. All that talk about him ripping some one off is offensive. I know you all didn't say that, but people have. This GB will be over soon as it comes in. And trust me joe and I want it over just as bad as the board and people waiting.
- custom concepts

Quote"

Joe also wanted to say sorry for the delays on the Group Buy for the AR, mags, & parts. But with the not changing the order on a weekly/monthly basis hopefully the vendors will be getting to this order. He said thanks to everyone for understanding and hanging in there. If Joe gets a ETA or a heads up, he said he'd let me know and i can get it posted. Anyway he just wanted me to get a update posted for the start of summer. Thanks

Spring Group Buy Update

Hey everyone, from what joe tells me. People that asked for the refunds a couple months back when we posted ask for a refund by a certain date. Yeah those folks joe mailed back. The ones who chose to be in it till the end, or didn't ask for a refund, then no there still in and waiting.

Joe said there was a lot of refunds and they basically had to cancell the order/ resubmit the order. From what I under stand from joe, even in the early part of the GB they were canceling and redoing the order. That I guess is what the hold up is. The order has been canceled and resubmitted or amended and it keeps putting us at the bottom of the list. Joe told me he even placed another order under his name also for some rifles hoping something hits soon.

He's just as fed up as the people in the group buy. He said he's not going to cancel or amend anything. When stuff comes in people will get it. He hasn't took anyone and the orders are placed. these were prepaid orders, and any refund puts us at the bottom. im sorry to say but so we can get this over with and shipped soon as possible if you choose to be in it then you are.

I'm just waiting for the email that says its all here then I can go to his place and gets pics and we can get this stuff shipped.

Someone on the board used joes email months ago for some porn site. He gets spammed with hundreds of emails a day. It fills up the in box and godaddy deletes them. Also he said someone wrote him a check for $130 and it didn't clear and he was charged for it. So joe was stuck in the hole on that. So joes feelings is everyone who ordered will get there stuff soon as it comes in. He said people had a deadline on the refunds so those who are stayed in are in it with him. He said the delivery dates are up to the vendors and he said they promised him many and haven't made it yet.

The problem with the prepaid orders is the customers money is sent in and the product is ordered. And the refund comes out of joes pocket until he gets a credit or the order gets amended. He can't afford to send everyone's money back and float all of this on his checking account. So he says the customer will get what they ordered, or if they want a refund he will sell there stuff when it comes in then send refund. you will get what you ordered or money back once its in and sold.

This GB is probably one of the longest. But its active and in progress. some people are claiming joes a crook. That's crap, they didn't have a problem with the prices at the time. but sorry they couldn't get it right away. I guess it is what it is, its no different than some one local placing a order in joes store. There waiting like all the GB folks. we have friends and co workers in on this too and we here about the wait all the time. no need to call and email just to complain. joes email and voice mail fills up quick. he asked me to post this update for him. so were all on the same page.

Joe is a stand up guy, he takes his gunshop and gunsmithing seriously. He's a great friend and sponsor. All that talk about him ripping some one off is offensive. I know you all didn't say that, but people have. This GB will be over soon as it comes in. And trust me joe and I want it over just as bad as the board and people waiting.
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AR update 3/27

talked to joe the other day. yes he said still waiting on the AR group buy. the prepaid orders/ar group buy are taking alot longer than expected. joe thinks back when he amended the orders numerous times, they may have bumped us to the end of the list. i know this has taken over a year, but the orders have been in and honestly were waiting like everyone one else. we want to get this group buy over just like you. but custom concepts isnt going to lower the quality of parts or workmanship just to get it over with. the parts and kits that have been ordered are high quality and are in high demand. remember the whole point of the group buy is to get a group order and save a considerable amount of money on the product. the M4's were if i remember correctly $300 cheaper than the going rate at the gun shops. no one is being took, we find it offensive that some are claiming this. everyone knew the market situation going into this. and the nature of the group buy with many vendors makes it very difficult to put a exact date on arrivals. soon as all the products come in we will post up with pictures and you will see what joe is working with. when he has all the parts, we then can provide a exact date of the builds and parts to be shipped. thats about the best custom concepts can come up with for a ETA at this time. thanks and we will post up if we hear anything.