Hey everyone, from what joe tells me. People that asked for the refunds a couple months back when we posted ask for a refund by a certain date. Yeah those folks joe mailed back. The ones who chose to be in it till the end, or didn't ask for a refund, then no there still in and waiting.
Joe said there was a lot of refunds and they basically had to cancell the order/ resubmit the order. From what I under stand from joe, even in the early part of the GB they were canceling and redoing the order. That I guess is what the hold up is. The order has been canceled and resubmitted or amended and it keeps putting us at the bottom of the list. Joe told me he even placed another order under his name also for some rifles hoping something hits soon.
He's just as fed up as the people in the group buy. He said he's not going to cancel or amend anything. When stuff comes in people will get it. He hasn't took anyone and the orders are placed. these were prepaid orders, and any refund puts us at the bottom. im sorry to say but so we can get this over with and shipped soon as possible if you choose to be in it then you are.
I'm just waiting for the email that says its all here then I can go to his place and gets pics and we can get this stuff shipped.
Someone on the board used joes email months ago for some porn site. He gets spammed with hundreds of emails a day. It fills up the in box and godaddy deletes them. Also he said someone wrote him a check for $130 and it didn't clear and he was charged for it. So joe was stuck in the hole on that. So joes feelings is everyone who ordered will get there stuff soon as it comes in. He said people had a deadline on the refunds so those who are stayed in are in it with him. He said the delivery dates are up to the vendors and he said they promised him many and haven't made it yet.
The problem with the prepaid orders is the customers money is sent in and the product is ordered. And the refund comes out of joes pocket until he gets a credit or the order gets amended. He can't afford to send everyone's money back and float all of this on his checking account. So he says the customer will get what they ordered, or if they want a refund he will sell there stuff when it comes in then send refund. you will get what you ordered or money back once its in and sold.
This GB is probably one of the longest. But its active and in progress. some people are claiming joes a crook. That's crap, they didn't have a problem with the prices at the time. but sorry they couldn't get it right away. I guess it is what it is, its no different than some one local placing a order in joes store. There waiting like all the GB folks. we have friends and co workers in on this too and we here about the wait all the time. no need to call and email just to complain. joes email and voice mail fills up quick. he asked me to post this update for him. so were all on the same page.
Joe is a stand up guy, he takes his gunshop and gunsmithing seriously. He's a great friend and sponsor. All that talk about him ripping some one off is offensive. I know you all didn't say that, but people have. This GB will be over soon as it comes in. And trust me joe and I want it over just as bad as the board and people waiting.
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Attention AR and Magazine group buy people. I just found out who's handling Joe's estate. In order to get what you had ordered or refund on your order.
Please contact:
John S Peavey Law Office
827 6th Ave
De Witt, Iowa 52742
563-659-8060
Title: Joe J Licht Estate
case: 07491 ESPR019738 (Jackson)
Petition in Probate
5/10/2010
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